Shiira's a tad slower than Camino, but still quite acceptable. It is a lovely browser, and a refreshing change from the Mozilla based bunch and Safari. I especially love that the tab's widths are proportional to their title, plus - unlike Camino - you can drag tabs to rearrange their order - excellent! :-) Also, providing you've a large enough display, the sidebar for viewing and editing bookmarks, history and downloads is great - _much_ better than taking over the active tab! Now if only Shiira saved the open window/tab state like Opera and was a tad faster, it would be the perfect browser for me. But as it stands it's still a hell of good browser, given how recently it arrived at v1. Anyone else here tried it out? Shiira URLs: Shiira's home page <http://hmdt-web.net/shiira/en> Versiontracker page <http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/23619> Regards, Jamie Kahn Genet -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.