On Nov 21, 2006, at 9:04 AM, Robert Ameeti wrote: > At 1:54 PM +0100, 11/21/06, Brian Durant wrote: > >> On 11/20/06, Robert Ameeti <robert at ameeti.net> wrote: >>> Listees need to learn to things to be responsible: plain text and >>> trimming. Both of these items were not being done by this listee. A >>> delay is sometimes the only way to get people to wake up and be >>> responsible. Certainly didn't cause anyone to lose any data. >> >> Using html is not irresponsible, > > On this we then disagree. In my opinion as a list server owner, I > do find HTML to be unacceptable. When a list is run as an expression of the moderator's notion of what everyone else should do, then you usually get a dead list (like this one). If the list were run to serve the members, you wouldn't get arguments like: "A list server owner has to set some limit somewhere and those that choose to use HTML may find that whatever limit is set is 'arbitrary'. " What does that have to do with new X users who want to get help? For the moderator who's lost sight of the list members, it doesn't matter - the administrivia becomes an end in itself. SR