[X-Newbies] Re: Your message to X-Newbies awaits moderator approval

Robert Ameeti robert at ameeti.net
Tue Nov 21 07:04:24 PST 2006


At 1:54 PM +0100, 11/21/06, Brian Durant wrote:

>On 11/20/06, Robert Ameeti <robert at ameeti.net> wrote:
>>Listees need to learn to things to be responsible: plain text and
>>trimming. Both of these items were not being done by this listee. A
>>delay is sometimes the only way to get people to wake up and be
>>responsible. Certainly didn't cause anyone to lose any data.
>
>Using html is not irresponsible,

On this we then disagree. In my opinion as a list server owner, I do 
find HTML to be unacceptable. Have you taken the time to note the 
difference in size between HTML posts and plain text posts? The fact 
is that HTML posts are sometimes 3 - 10 times larger than the same 
plain text post. This is just not acceptable when the listees are 
potentially bandwidth limited (to say nothing of my server's 
bandwidth.)

>  nor is posting over 5 KB.

When you later mention that it is only 165 bytes over limit, it would 
seem that there might be no line which is meant to be held. List 
software has settings for maximum size. We don't set a maximum size 
and then the server is allowed to arbitrarily allow messages that are 
just a little bit over that limit go through. Things don't work like 
that. If the earler message was trimmed properly, there would have 
been no problem.

>  Holding a posting to a thread, using size as the only criteria does not in my
>opinion constitute a reasonable action:

And that is not the only criteria. The number of lines that are 
quoted is also another criteria as well as HTML, etc.

How about you donating your server and bandwidth to a thousand other 
users and then you can take the abuse of what everyone else thinks 
you should be doing in your donation?
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Robert Ameeti

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