Great input from Don Levy: > used Mozilla for some time and far preferred it to Safari. Safari has > problems rendering some pages/sites correctly, and in such cases often > takes > far longer to load the pages than other browsers, even timing out > (failing) > after over a minute. > > I design web sites (in addition to doing Mac support) and one of my > clients > had a board of directors, two of whom used Safari. I spent over a week > trying to figure out why the site (which was designed entirely in > Dreamweaver, known for its relatively clean code) was having such > problems. > Finally, I determined, by trial and error, that Safari was choking on > some > standard javascript, and fixed it by manually changing the code. My > hunch is > that Safari (Apple) is "right," in that the code probably doesn't > adhere > strictly to common standards (while Microsoft IE and Mozilla/Netscape) > do, > but that "purity" caused me to do a couple of things: > > 1. Dump using Safari personally. > 2. Decide, along with the owner of the client business, that the time > and > effort it took to make the site "Safari-friendly" just wasn't > justified, > given that even in a very Mac-centric group of site visitors few were > actually using it (our statistics showed less than .5% of all users on > Safari, and even just among Mac users (about a third of visitors to the > site), only about 1% used it. > > More recently, I became aware of Firefox a month or two ago and > downloaded > it. I think it's head and shoulders over all the others, and now use it > personally as my main browser. It has many, many features no other > browser > offers, or features that they do have, but that Firefox executes better > and/more elegantly. That, plus the ability to customize it to exactly > the > way I like to work, and over 100 optional plug-ins, almost all of them > free, > that do fantastic jobs right within the browser, has gotten me to > recommend > it to all my clients. I especially love the instant search for > bookmarks by > keyword or partial words, making it easy again to find that needle in > my > messy bookmark haystack. There've been a very few sites that Firefox > didn't > work well with, but overall, I still prefer it to every other browser > I've > tried, and in those rare instances, I usually fire up IE or Safari. > > The developers of Firefox just came out with a companion email > program, thus > far with favorable reviews, but I plan to stick to Microsoft's > Entourage > (which, by the way, seems to integrate with Firefox almost like they > were > made to fit together hand and glove, and far better than Entourage > works > even with Microsoft's own Internet Explorer). > > P.S. Do me a favor and post this reply to the list. For some reason, I > don't > seem able to do so. I don't get a "bounce" response, but messages just > never > show up. I've written the list owner for help, but never got a reply. > Odd. > Perhaps he'll see this and take a moment to email or phone me. > > Regards, > > Don > > ------------------------ > Don Levy > The Mac Therapist > Los Angeles > 323-225-2228 > > http://mactherapist.com > > donlevy at mactherapist.com > ------------------------ > > > > >> From: Samantha Cornell <samantha at netresults.biz> >> Reply-To: "A place to discuss Mac OS X for the casual user." >> <x4u at listserver.themacintoshguy.com> >> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 08:51:01 -0500 >> To: "A place to discuss Mac OS X for the casual user." >> <x4u at listserver.themacintoshguy.com> >> Subject: Re: [X4U] Slow safari >> >> I'm guess it's not a problem with my system. >> >> I'm going to try mozilla, has anyone had any success with their >> browser? >> >> I liked that Safari was compact, and didn't have all the extra >> features >> that I don't need. What browsers are other people using? >> >> Thanks... >> >> Sam >> >> On Dec 9, 2004, at 8:26 PM, Al Grappone wrote: >> >>>> I have noticed for the past few weeks that after being open for a >>>> while (15 minutes or so), safari seems to be slowing down. This is >>>> most noticeable on ebay, when I click on something it appears to >>>> freeze for 15 seconds or so, then begins to load. It is almost >>>> reminiscent of my dial-up days. If iI then go to another sight - >>>> say >>>> apple.com or cnn.com...it continues to be slow. >>>> >>>> This does not occur on other browsers...but I seem to be attached to >>>> Safari. >>>> >>>> It may have began when I last updated, but I'm not sure. >>>> >>>> Any ideas? I have, of course, repaired permissions and dumped the >>>> cache. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Samantha >>> >>> Same here. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> X4U mailing list >> X4U at listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > >