Putting your passwords in the Keychain is probably your best bet. If you really want to be on the safe side, choose different passwords for your keychain and your account login. Otherwise your keychain is just as safe as your account login password, which, if I recall right, is less secure encrypted than the password to your keychain. Apple's keychain is certainly better than using a file with restricted permissions: Permissions won't protect much if somebody has access to your account or physical access to your machine. I would also never trust a shareware password safe even if it claims to have better encryption. For one, you never know how good the encryption scheme was implemented and if there is an accidental hole. And then, I would not trust a shareware when I don't know if it might call home on occasions with my passwords in it. The exception to my dislike of non-Apple software in this respect would be widely known and used open source software. That is probably even safer than Apple's Keychain, because I trust the scrutiny that common open source software is going through more than Apple's best efforts. Plus, you never know if Apple, Microsoft etc. are not subject to CIA requirements with a secret backdoor to their encryption products. I can hardly imagine that being the case for GPLed software. Not that I go to that length. But since we're talking serious here. In any way, use good passwords. Apple's Tiger has a feature that suggests good passwords to remember them. But as a rule of thumb you can also build them for a fantasy line with some "effects" added to it: "Now, whenever I'm in Germany, I say: Guten Tag." becomes N,wI'miG,Is:GT. which then becomes for instance N,w|'m!9,|$:G?. Don't use the above password anymore. By publishing it here it will sooner or later show up in dictionairies for password hacking tools. Some people suggested that people are not interested in my data. Yes, that's probably true: My letter to aunt Sue is not that interesting to them. But there's a lot of identity theft going on. A password collection from another person's machine is "a good thing to have" for the malicious folks out there. The biggest threat for OS X machines out there are currently Unix rootkits which usually imply keyloggers and Trojan Horses. I do not mean "big threat"! I said "biggest threat" which can still be not much of a threat at all. Like talking about an attack of the "biggest ant". I recommend that as a matter of safety - people do not use an admin account for their daily work (which helps to some degree to prevent the system becoming infected) - use good passwords (see above) - put your Mac behind a router when accessing the internet - turn off all sharing services they don't need - turn off all auto-start/-open/-display in Safari, Quicktime, Mail ... - think twice before double-clicking anything new from the internet, even a seemingly harmless text file. - think three, four, five times and ask somebody more experienced for advice when something strange should happen, like: Why did that textfile ask for admin privileges to launch TextEdit? Why did that textfile launch not only TextEdit but also iTunes? - Always type critical URIs yourself, never follow links from a product page taking you to your bank or the Paypal-site, for instance. - If the threats against OS X become more real than they are at the moment, Virus checkers and 3rd party firewalls could become recommendable as they are for Windows right now. All that said ... PowerPC Macs are still pretty safe out of the box. Take the above as "A guideline to indulge in paranoia". Bjorn _______________________________________________ X4U mailing list X4U at listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information contained herein is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access by any other party is unauthorised without the express written permission of the sender. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender either via the company switchboard on +44 (0)20 7623 8000, or via e-mail return. If you have received this e-mail in error or wish to read our e-mail disclaimer statement and monitoring policy, please refer to http://www.drkw.com/disc/email/ or contact the sender. 3167 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------