On Jun 10, 2005, at 10:14 AM, Judi Sohn wrote: > Most Mac applications tend to have a "one size fits all" > approach, eliminating what the developer sees as bloat or useless when > in fact it may be a vital feature that one can then go to the Windows > side and find. The "one size fits all" mentality is not limited to MacOS developers, please refer to MS Office or General Motors. I see it as a result of software product development being driven by accountants and MBA's who religiously argue that only the bottom line matters. "Show me the business case for..." Of course the bottom line matters but the accountants and MBA's were dead wrong about the demise of Apple. As I recall it was during the "Apple Is History" years that many developers abandoned the goal of platform neutrality. Platform independence is a worthy goal, but it doesn't come for free. Just as the IT industry bought into the myth of "zero deployment" using web browsers, the IT industry also believed Wall Street knew what it was talking about and "standardized" on Windows. Why? Because the wonks said it would (A) be cheaper, (B) more stable and (C) Microsoft was a reliable business partner by virtue of Apple's demise. Today's score: A = wrong, B = wrong, C = wrong. Windows architecture is old, rusty and years behind schedule. Longhorn, if it ever ships, may change that but XP was touted as changing "that". XP is a security breach in plexiglass high heels. Nonetheless, the IT industry sold their clientele a bill of goods and now must deal with the consequences. E.g. less IT investment by large corporations in recent years. So, in retrospect, vendors who support only Windows may have healthy sales, or not, but by that decision gave up 20+ million potential sales to people who are incredibly loyal. Please review the history of Intuit. Today, those decisions look short sighted. Not wrong, but lacking alacrity of vision. On Jun 10, 2005, at 10:14 AM, Judi Sohn wrote: > What Robert, Alex and I are talking > about is not an attack on Mac OS X or its developers. It's not "mine > is bigger/better than yours." Judy et al are spot on. So relax, take a walk, and have a glass of wine. It's Friday... well, it is where I am at the moment. Looking forward, there are many tools that enable development of true platform independent business applications. Omnis, Python, Java, Real Basic. The list is long and this does not mention the absolutely huge amount of applications written in Pick, c, cobol and such that are still being sold today. Software vendors don't need a lot to entice them to support a sizable market but they do need a lot of resources to rewrite the mountains of spaghetti code that have piled up over the last five or ten years. Once written in VB you are doomed to migrate. If developed in a reasonable environment then application migrations are much easier. xCode, when the new Intel machines become available, may evolve into one very cool replacement for the CodeWarrior of old. It's pretty cool now, but I digress. Consider the Mono Project. That project has potential. This is an interesting time indeed. Coffee break is over. See you on the flip side. Mark Phillips Mophilly & Associates On the web at http://www.mophilly.com On the phone at 619 444-9210