PowerMac G4/450 has been running fine for years, update after update. I haven't been into the office in a couple of weeks.. however when I showed up, the computer was running fine. With a list of updates in the software update control panel that it wanted to install. I was running OSX10.4 one of the updates it wanted to install was 10.4.1 , also a quicktime update, I think a security update ? and maybe an iTunes update .. anyway I told them all to install. installation finished, asked if I wanted to restart. I clicked restart. now the computer just gets to a gray screen with the Apple logo in the middle, and never progresses beyond that. I tried restarting it.. i've tried completely shutting it down, and then start. Never gets past this gray screen with the apple logo. I tried starting up with the "s" key held down.. I thought this would start it in simple mode or what ever it's called. but that did nothing, same gray screen. Any suggestions ? ! Kansast