Richard Gilmore said: >But they only work if you have serial port? >I have a very old Laserwriter I >haven't hooked it up yet I was going to run it from an old OS9 machine. Also >can you still buy toner cartridges for them and are there serial to USB >adapters that would work? An old Apple LaserWriter can be made to work with a modern Mac if *either* the LaserWriter has an Ethernet connection (Which, I'm afraid, is rare for Apple LaserWriters. Only the 630 and 16/600 had one.) or if you use a LocalTalk to Ethernet adapter. Every a LocalTalk to Ethernet adapter that I know of has been discontinued, but you can still find them for sale. The two most popular were the one from Asante, and a much better one from Farallon (now known as Proxim). The one from Asante was problematic, and I recommend that it be avoided. Proxim/Farallon iPrint Adapter LT $82.56 http://www.mediastore.com/TD/product.asp?DPT=Accessories&SEC=55&GRP=H5&CAT= A5&SUB=E1&SKU=268253TD Note: Each LocalTalk printer connected via an EtherMac iPrint LT to your Macintosh requires a PhoneNET Connector. You can get a PhoneNet connector for only $2.50 here: http://www.consumerdepot.com/products.asp?id=PN120R That said, I think that purchasing this adapter is a waste of money. You can purchase a brand new Brother HL-1440 laser printer, that's faster, and which prints at a higher resolution, and which comes with a warranty, for not much more money. Randy B. Singer Co-Author of: The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th and 6th editions) Routine OS X Maintenance and Generic Troubleshooting http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html