On Apr 30, 2005, at 11:28, DZ-Jay wrote: > I'm certainly not an expert on this matter I doubt any of us is; be that as it may, you are entirely wrong, and Kirk is right. The problems of DAE (digital audio extraction) lie in the audio CD specification. Succinctly, data on an audio CD is not organized in files; the medium is not random-access and the synch data is less accurate than a desktop OS requires; and error correction is not robust enough. These limitations were not intended as some kind of copy protection, but were a reflection of its intended purpose and the time when the specification was created. (Remember the days when some were arguing that nobody would want more than 640k RAM in their PC?) By contrast, these limitations do not apply to the CD-ROM format. That's why we don't have arguments about extracting data from CD-ROMs, and, incidentally, that's why you can fit 740MB worth of data on a standard CD if you write it as an audio CD, but only 650MB worth of data if you write it as a CD-ROM. <0x0192>