In versions of Mail.app for Panther and now Tiger, I have always experienced this annoyance: Mail.app checks for mail and distributes emails to a number of different folders based upon rules. When I click on a folder, the upper pane NEVER places the newest mail item at the top of the view (I'm always set to sort by date; newest at the top) if there are more messages that the pane can display. I ALWAYS have to mouse over to the right and nudge the scroll bar to get to the top of the list. Does everyone else suffer from this? How do such annoying UI problems persist? j mcd -- John McDaniel --