On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 06:33:30AM CDT, Cindy Moore <bgcyclist at netscape.net> wrote: : : I'd better clarify this in case someone else runs into the : same problem. I wasn't trying to connect an iBook. I was : connecting a Pismo G3. This is the oldest laptop out there : that can run Tiger but I have decided to leave Panther on it. The non-PowerBookG4 models may have built-in Ethernet, but will not have the crossover autodetection hardware. This is a useful feature when connecting two computers directly via an Ethernet cable; without it, one needs the special Ethernet "crossover" cable. -- Eugene http://www.coxar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/