On 9 Aug 2006, at 14:27, Jim Robertson wrote: > On 8/8/06 11:30 PM, "Stroller" <macmonster at myrealbox.com> wrote: > >> But that's exactly what you're telling me (or at least Mr Ameeti is) >> - it says on the bag "OEM" so it should only be used by OEMs. Despite >> what it says in the very comprehensive contract that Microsoft have >> drawn up. > > I know you probably covered this before, but I lost my memory... > > Are you saying that the actual contract for OEM copies of XP > contains no > language forbidding its purchase by individuals for installation on > compuers > they've built themselves or purchased separately.... Yes. That's pretty much what I'm saying, although you might like to double-check this for yourself, and take my advice with the proviso that I'm not a lawyer. These is a requirement to buy some hardware component with an OEM copy of Windows XP but it's very common to sell OEM copies with nothing more expensive than a USB cable or $5 network card. From "/Volumes/WXHOEM_EN/I386/EULA.TXT": ...This End-User License Agreement ("EULA") is a legal agreement between you ... and the manufacturer ("Manufacturer") of the ... computer system component ("HARDWARE") with which you acquired the Microsoft software product(s) identified above ("SOFTWARE"). ... The term "COMPUTER" as used herein shall mean ... the computer system with which the HARDWARE operates, if the HARDWARE is a computer system component. Manufacturer grants you the following rights, provided you comply with all of the terms and conditions of this EULA: - Installation and Use. Except as otherwise expressly provided in this EULA, you may install, use, access, display and run only one (1) copy of the SOFTWARE on the COMPUTER. I read that fairly clearly as saying "if you purchased this software with a USB cable, stick of RAM or network card then you can run this software on the computer with which you use that USB cable, stick of RAM or network card". If you can't find the full text of the OEM EULA online then let me know & I'll post it. My point in this boot camp thread is that not only is this legal, but it's probably what Microsoft intended, too. They have very expensive lawyers who could have surely closed this "loophole" over the last 5 years or so, had they wished. I'm suggesting that "OEM Windows" may just be a differential pricing structure so that those who aren't prepared to pay the price of the "retail" versions of Windows can buy it at half the price online (although this doesn't entirely consider the non-transference clause which appears to apply in the US). > , and that there's no > language that prohibits resale by the OEM to such individuals? That's a good question. Who's the OEM in this case? Individuals can certainly buy this OEM software from reputable vendors such as NewEgg.com, but in that case NewEgg are acting as supplier not OEM, I think. I don't believe that NewEgg are in breach of any contract in selling the software to you, but I'm not sure; what I do know is that it's a very common practice and Microsoft haven't clamped down on it. NewEgg are required to ensure that you buy some item of hardware with the OEM copy of Windows and will enforce this, but it doesn't need to be an expensive hardware component. Read <http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20041011-4276.html> Stroller.