>From: Tim Collier <timjcollier at mac.com> >.... we Mac users have developed our own subgroup. I'd call them >"ostriches". >Even though OS X was released WAY back in 2001 or so, we still have a >core group who refuses to even try it. They insist that OS 9 is the >only OS that they would even consider using. We've also developed an >even newer subgroup who say that they can only use a G3-5 to run >their applications and won't even consider buying a new Intel based Mac. >These people have their heads buried in the sand. Ostriches! < snip > >Tim You have to remember that everyone is different, and not everyone who reads lists like this puts as much importance on their computer as we do. Some only read when they have a problem. Some have real reasons. I will not get an Intel Mac yet (unless something dies) because I only migrated my company accounts off from a now Classic-only program five years ago. I have to be able to access those accounts for two more years. That means I have to be sure I have a running Classic-capable Mac for two more years. If I upgraded and my accounts wouldn't run under Sheepshaver I'd have to keep two Macs running. When people say they want to stick its often a one phrase statement that hides a valid three paragraph reason that's not relevant to the subject under discussion. If I asked a question that included the above so as to explain why I was asking (plus some more to cover my full real situation), how many of those who knew the answer would even read the question? How many would miss the question among the irrelevant detail? Don't expect the full truth of the background to all questions. It's not important. Last year I migrated my father from my old Classic-II (twelve year old disc drive) to my less-old Bondi iMac that I had loaded with 10.2 earlier. I wish I'd downgraded it to 9.2 first so he didn't have to learn anything new. At 86 the change has knocked his ability to use it way back. He's not new to computers. He introduced me to the first I ever saw in about 1961 and was doing some quite advanced stuff till he retired. He got my Classic-II when his BBC A with Forth and Lisp died. He says the if he outlasts the Bondi he'll just stop using a computer. It's just not that important to him. David -- David Ledger - Freelance Unix Sysadmin in the UK. Chair of HPUX SysAdmin SIG of hpUG technical user group (www.hpug.org.uk) david.ledger at ivdcs.co.uk www.ivdcs.co.uk