(( > My drive door will open w/both the hardware and software options, I > can hear > it TRY to spin up with a disc inserted but NO startup. Try a CD disc cleaner first )) Well I had the same problem a few months ago with my iBook, the drive spinned then stopped then spinned again then went ka-put! This went on for maybe three months. It turned out the drive was just at that point in which it needed to be replaced. I tried everything, from cd disc cleaners to the hardware test cd. I finally took it to my local authorized apple reseller and they told me the drive needed to be replaced. $220.00 to replace the drive in my iBook, Ouch! Applecare ran out before the drive went on the fritz The repair guy said that all iBooks with combo drives or just plain dvd drives are more prone to be burnt out within a 3yr span of the iBooks life due to the fact that most people leave cds or dvds in the drive. The drives spin every few minutes performing a self-check to see whether the disc is being read or not (that is in actual use) and get worn out faster because of the usage. Thus causing the symtoms in which you are experiencing as did I. So he told me to leave the drive empty unless I'm actually using the drive, It'll make the drive last longer. Any rate I hope you don't have to get that drastic in repair costs. Kyotc