Use the 1.3 or 2.0.1 firmware updaters to wipe the iPod back to like new (empty) condition. kunga10 (AIM) "iChat AV, The Killer App" <http://www.osx-zone.com> "We're Looking At A Long Period of Labor 'til January" <http://www.apple-zone.com> "Verax MDD-FW800 Silence Kit Kills Almost All The Noise" <http://www.apple-zone.com> "iPod Software 2.0.1 Update Released" <http://www.ipod-zone.com> On Monday, July 14, 2003, at 08:56 AM, Ray Kloss wrote: > I did this and was able to use utilities to recover a disk. Now I > would like > to delete the system, and am having thoughts on how to do it. I have my > music data, but can I format the drive, or would that wipe out the iPod > system? Can I wipe it clean through the diagnostic mode?