On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 12:17:43AM -0800, Stephen Maris wrote: > a comment below about blowing air 'down' the chimney is wrong. this > is fighting the natural convection, which causes hot air to rise, so > it would be fighting nature. Say what you may, my tests show the opposite. My system stays at a constant 20-24C with a fan blowing air down from the top, versus 28-32C with a fan blowing up from under the cube: http://www.mrbill.net/newcam/test/tn/newcam.jpg.html You can see the ThermoInDock in the Dock in that picture, even. G4/450, 1.2G RAM, GeForce 2MX video card (with heatsink, and not a fan; this is a tower-model card). Any movement of air from "natural convection" is so small as to be insignificant - as long as there's "fresh" or "cooler" air going through that heat sink in the middle of the Cube, it doesent matter which direction its blowing from. The airflow from the fan is easily 100x as powerful as any natural convection. I suspect that my setup works best "from the top" due to there being less "interference" - e.g., bigger vents and virtually no obstructions between the fan and internal heat sink when blowing down through the vents at the top - but when blowing up from the bottom, the airflow hits a sheet of metal with holes in it, rather than mostly-open vents. Perhaps its different with a fan properly internally mounted inside the cube in the "factory" fan bracket, sucking air from the bottom and blowing upwards with little/no resistance - but I cant go that route and keep my AppleCare (installing a fan voids any AppleCare warranty). I've never had heating problems, even with the GF2MX and no external fan - but I run the fan to keep the system cool and help insure long life, as it is my main desktop system right now. Bill -- bill bradford mrbill at mrbill.net austin, texas