I don't have "alt" nor "eject" keys on my Macally iKey keyboard. Is the "alt" key the one above the tab key with the ~ above a `? Can I use the "F12" Eject Function key instead of an "eject key" to accomplish auto shut-down Stefan? k On Saturday, February 15, 2003, at 03:47 PM, stefan friedl wrote: > press ctrl + alt + command + eject and it shuts off without asking. > > f. > > Am Samstag, 15.02.03, um 23:12 Uhr (Europe/Vienna) schrieb Thubten > Kunga: > >> Yes. It's not in preferences. It's a key trick. Hold down the option >> key before you pull down to restart or shut down. You can see the >> "..." disappear in the menu when you do that and it will go directly >> to what you choose. Alternatively, press the power button and a >> dialog box will appear giving you four choices with Shut Down being >> the active key that can be pressed with the return or enter keys. So >> Power + Enter or Return is a keyboard direct way to shut down without >> being asked for permission.