they are right; any Canon or Sony DV camera will do what these devices do; plus more. I have a old Canon zr-10 you can get one used on ebay for under $200. It works great; I do transfers all the time; plus I have a DV camera to shoot with. steve >http://www.canopus.com/US/products/ADVC-100/pm_advc-100.asp > >I use this; it blows away the dazzle and especially the formac. It even >overrides Macrovision in the source. > >Not sure how it compares on price; I've had it for more than a year now. > > >-Ray > >on 7/17/03 6:02 PM, Richard wrote: > >> >> On Thursday, Jul 17, 2003, at 23:55 Europe/Rome, David Grant wrote: >> >>> My Sony digital camcorder makes it trivially easy to transfer VHS >>> tapes to your computer by connecting the VCR to the Mac through the >>> camcorder. They even supply the needed cables. >> >> sony cam costs way more than this gizmo though > > >>