Bruce, I'm glad you've got it solved now. Rgds, LM >>> brucarr at rogers.com - 2004/04/27 18:08 PM >>> LM: Thanks for all your help. Sometimes we look for the difficult solutions when the easy one are staring us right in the face. I've tried it all but after downloading and then installing the latest Security Update - SecUpd2004-04-05Jag.dmg for OS 10.2.8 My problem has been fixed. Go figure. Thanks again B Carr