Laurie, Your credentials are so impressive that I will now return to "list lurking" so as not to further expose my obvious lack of same... To all those who read any of my posts trying to help - please disregard and DO NOT implement any of my suggestions... no harm was intended... My apologies to all... 'bye, pm On Jan 29, 2004, at 12:42 AM, Laurie A Duncan wrote: > As a Mac Consultant with my own business in NYC and a significantly > broad > client base, I have to say that a large percentage of kernel panics > are, in > fact, hardware related. Even so, software-induced KPs are relatively > simple > to diagnose without the need for a reinstall (archive or otherwise) of > the > OS. > > Laurie > -- > Founder, Editor, FAQ-checker > http://cubeowner.com > Home of The Mac Cube FAQ! > AOL IM/iChat: cubeownernyc > > On 1/29/04 12:00 AM, "J.C. Webber III" <jcw at kingoblio.com> typed the > following: > >> I don't mean to be harsh either, but this is the typical support >> engineer's response. Get it fixed and the customer off the line >> as quickly as possible. >> >> Never mind that this 'shotgun' approach removes any possiblity >> of discovering the root cause of the problem, thus providing >> the user with some clue as to how to avoid a reoccurance. >> >> A complete scratch install should be the last resort, when you've >> effectively given up, not the first thing you try. >> >> -- jcw >> >> Phil Mitchell wrote: >> >>> Well, we have not seen a hardware-related KP to date, but maybe it is >>> the climate down here in Miami, eh?? Archive installs are not painful >>> things (alá the ole "clean install" in OS 9!!), and software updater >>> will take care of the rest - in just a few short hours!! >>> >>> pm >>> Yeah, seems a bit harsh, but as an Apple Consultant, trust me on >>> this... >>> >>> pm >>> >>> On Jan 28, 2004, at 12:21 AM, Alan Thompson wrote: >>> >>>> really? b/c of one kernel panic? i mean, a kp is bad, unkay, but >>>> reinstalling seems a bit rash. i dunno. >>>> >>>> On Jan 27, 2004, at 10:25 AM, Phil Mitchell wrote: >>>> >>>>>> That is the new KERNEL PANIC indicator... you should do an archive >>>>>> install ASAP and do the software updater thingy 'til you get back >>>>>> to >>>>>> 10.3.2... >>> >>> > > > ---------- > Check out the Cube email list FAQ > http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/Cube.html > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <Cube-off at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > <Cube-digest at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > Need help from a real person? Try. > <Cube-request at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > > ---------- > $14.99 Unlimited Nationwide Mac Dialup and Mac Web Hosting from your > Mac ISP > Serious Mac Internet Solutions From NineWire! > http://macinternetaccess.com > > T3Hub | 3 Port USB Hub weighs less than an ounce! > Dr. Bott| <http://www.drbott.com/prod/T3Hub.html> > > Cyberian | Support this list when you buy at Outpost.com! > Outpost | http://www.themacintoshguy.com/outpost.shtml > > ADC Extension | Extend the built in cable of your flat panel by 10 ft. > Dr. Bott | <http://www.drbott.com/prod/ADCExtension.html> >