On 2005-02-10 15:32, George Pepper wrote: > Remember, I'm on this list because I don't WANT to know ANYTHING about > computers. I just want them to work. That's why my last Wintel machine was > tossed into a dumpster in a fit of rage and I use Apples now. I guess my bitch > should be directed at the "error" message: WTF good is an error message THAT > DOES NOT TELL YOU HOW TO FIX THE PROBLEM? No offence, George, but if you want your computer(s) to just work, you really should make sure you're up-to-date. The latest version of Safari is 1.2.4 (v125.12), and you mentioned you're using 1.0.3 (v85.8.1) still. Expecting machines to "just work" is all nice 'n' dandy, but there comes a time when technology passes them by, and keeping them running involves a bit more than expecting it to "just work". ,xtG .tsooJ -- 011110010110111101110101 011000010111001001100101 01100100011101010110110101100010 -- Joost van de Griek <http://www.jvdg.net/>