Scott: I've emailed you OFF list. Didn't you get my email!? LM >>> scott at strungis.net - 21/01/2005 12:43 PM >>> I have used both Xpod and iPod Download and they have worked just fine for me. Xpod is a third party application. It will download the entire iPod to the computer's HD. iPod Download is a plugin for iTunes and requires a little hacking to work under the latest version of iTunes as Apple is none too pleased to have a way OUT of the iPod through iTunes. iPod Download allows individual song downloads from the iPod. Scott