my cube is currently running a dual 1.6 ghz powerlogix with 1.12 gb ram, with a geforce3 128 mb. it's been running a tad glitchy lately with funny video performance on streaming things. should not be,as i have decent dsl, even out here in the boonies. other machines on the same uplink do not have similar issues. so i figure it may well be the unsupported [by invidia] drivers on the geforce [through strangedogs as sourced/flashed] . thing is, that route deadends on other folks whims. i'm looking at downgrading or othergrading. just because what do i do as things grow older and outer, and i'm holding? on the funny fringe? i got a beta of leopard a few months ago from a friend at mit and put it on a partition of the hhd, which is another issue,[300 gb, but showing way less, despite some efforts] but it ran fine. looking to scrub that out and try leopard, but not for a couple of months. my feeling is that tiger runs fine, and the multi features that leopard offers can use some bedding in. no need for me to be on the bleeding edge. but 10.5 [leopard] will run on machines that have sufficient material resources, despite age. ymmv. regards. -=c'ham=-