I spend alot of time in China, Japan, Korea and parts of South East Asia, since it's on business I try to be very careful and learn the culture (and Quirk's) of the countries I visit. Being a woman is a black mark so I do my best not to ever insult a host. Things change but slowly when it comes to culture. Brandy artrice66 at yahoo.com wrote: Oddly enough, my wife recently criticized me for referring to something as "Oriental" and said I should say "Asian" !! Art in Silicon Valley