>They are all female unless they play up then they are male. ? I can only think of one thing that'll play "up" on a male, but I can't see anything on a Mac that would do something like that... Maybe you mean "act up". Is that what the kids are saying now? I was thinking more like..quiet, powerful, dependable, threatened; you know, that whole Y-chrome thing. Until they act up. Then they are ..poo poo heads. :^,~ we now return you to your proper level of discourse