Sorry for the delayed reply. I don't look at this list's folder very often because it is not used by many very often. The part about canceling your order for other burn software may be too late. Yes they are all IDE inside except for a small number of SCSI writers from the late 90's. Most all IDE burners are now built with the MMC-3 standard that Roxio Toast works with. You can throw any MMC-3 compatible IDE burner into a FW case and be working with Toast right away. If you don't have Toast, and can wait until September for Toast 6 which will have DVD, VCD and SVCD authoring built into it, you will save the upgrade cost OR maybe it will be a free upgrade for buyers of Toast 5 now. In any event, you must forget about that esoteric software you are wasting your money on, try and stop the order or refuse delivery and get Toast for your burner. It is the only way to burn on a Mac IMHO. kunga10 (AIM) kunga47 (Yahoo Messenger with Cross-Platform dial-up Video sans audio) On Tuesday, July 8, 2003, at 08:38 AM, Rick Castillo wrote: > What is this difference? I know that ide transfers data at 7800 KB/S > and firewire moves it at 400 mbs. What I want to know is, > > How much more will I pay for a true Firewire CD-RW? > Is there such a thing? > Who makes them?