[FW] Trouble with Firewire on External Enclosure with serial ata

[jeff chasick]

the SATA chip should be fine

can you see the FireWire chip on the bridgeboard in the enclosure?

  there might be a round sticker on it that you would need to peel back 
to see the very light print on the chip (and since it is a FireWire/USB 
combo, there might be 2 chips (one FireWire, one USB), unless it is a 
1394b enclosure and then it might be using the Oxford 922 chip (which 
has support for 1xfirewire and 1xusb2 channel....

if its 1394a, then it could be an Oxford chip (911), an Initio chip 
(1430), a TI chip, a Prolific chip, a Genesys chip.....


On Jan 4, 2005, at 11:59 AM, Larry Blodgett wrote:

> I guess there are actually two different board (or chips).  One chip 
> on the SATA to IDE  and another chip on the enclosure board IDE to 
> (USB and firewire).
>
> Here is the spec on the SATA to IDE board>>>>>>>>>
> 	• 	Serial ATA 1.0 compliant
> 	• 	 Convert any Serial ATA hard drive or Serial ATA storage device 
> into IDE hard drive or ATAPI devices
> 	• 	 Support ATA 33/66/100/133
> 	• 	 48 bits LBA. Support large hard drives of 137 GB or larger with 
> one partition
> 	• 	 Mini Board size (75mm x 26mm). Mount directly to the back of SATA 
> hard drive
> 	• 	 Bootable
> 	• 	 Simple plug and play, no drivers required
> 	• 	 Compatible with any OS (Windows, DOS, Mac, Linux, UNIX..) that 
> supports IDE or ATAPI storage devices
> 	• 	 Supports Spread Spectrum in receiver
> 	• 	 Compliant with ATA specifications
> The enclosure interface
>
>  has USB 2.0/1.1, Firewire/iLink  (not much info here)
>
> Larry
>
>
>
> On Jan 4, 2005, at 10:01 AM, jeff chasick wrote:
>
>> what type of firewire chip is used in the enclosure?
>>
>> if the drive is functioning on the USB bus, then it does not sound 
>> like a problem with the drive, but rather the firewire chip on the 
>> bridgeboard in the enclosure
>>
>> you should also check fwdepot.com for information
>>
>>
>> On Jan 4, 2005, at 10:50 AM, David DelMonte wrote:
>>
>>> Regarding using the drive as an internal unit, I believe you'll need 
>>> a new Disk Drive Adapter to see the full drive size, however they 
>>> are not expensive. I had a similar problem till I upgraded. It was a 
>>> while ago and I cant remember the details of which adapter I bought.
>>>
>>> On using external drive cases, I've had mixed success, but I 
>>> recommend companies like transintl.com  dvwarehouse, and macsales. 
>>> They know their stuff and their support is pretty good.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 4, 2005, at 10:24 AM, Larry Blodgett wrote:
>>>
>>> I am always trying to keep up with the changing technology.  I 
>>> changed as quick as I could to DDR from SDRAM.  Now I am in the 
>>> process of learning and changing from IDE to serial ATA hard drives. 
>>>  I bought a Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 200G SATA/150 drive.  I have 
>>> since then tried to adapt that new drive to my old IDE Macs.  I have 
>>> little doubt it will slip directly into a G5, but I don't have one 
>>> (someday I will).  Here is the source of my trouble.  I have bought 
>>> two adapters which plug into the SATA drive and allow my IDE cable 
>>> to plug into the adapter.
>>>
>>> If I install it into my G4 the bus only sees 128 G.  That not so 
>>> good.
>>>
>>> If I install it into and external enclosure with both USB2 and 
>>> Firewire, I have mixed results.
>>>
>>> Enclosures have different versions of hardware to support the drive 
>>> and adapt it to USB or Firewire,\.
>>>
>>> The older versions work just like the G4. (Firewire works fine but 
>>> 128 G) (USB1 (ugh) works but 128 G)
>>> The new enclosure (Addonics Model AE5SACSUF) with the Addonics SATA 
>>> to IDE adapter works fine on USB2 but does not work at all on the 
>>> Firewire port.  Hook up to firewire, Disk Utility sees the entire 
>>> drive (~200 G) but when you erase or partition the process hangs.
>>>
>>> Does anyone else have any good advice to help me resolve these 
>>> problems?  Maybe this is just a Maxtor problem, I don't know.  Maybe 
>>> this is just a warning to let you know that all the bugs have not 
>>> been worked in the interfaces that support the SATA drives.
>>>
>>>
>>> Larry Blodgett
>>> lblodgett at mac.com
>>>
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