I second Scott's argument - after about 25 years experience in buying and using various computers and operating systems, I never buy the first model or version. There are always bugs to be worked out... Jay Snoke > as a former Apple employee, I would never ever purchase the first > series of any of their computers. There are always bugs and you > usually end up kicking yourself by the time the second model is > released. When the very first G4's were released 2 of my friends > bought them and both had many many problems with them. When the first > dual 1's were released we ended up repairing close to 50% of the units > we sold. > > Just my infinite amount of dollars +1 to what ever you say, black > magic, no erasies. > > On Friday, August 8, 2003, at 11:43 AM, Kunga wrote: > > > Matt's 2¢ isn't worth 2¢. He completely misunderstands and > > underestimates the value of the 1 GHz bus and the fact that the OS > > will never need to be 64-bit for applications to be 64-bit right away > > with trivial recompilations that Apple has made simple for developers > > to deliver quickly. 64-bit Photoshop will be delivered as a free > > update later this month before most G5 buyers even get their > computers. > > > > Apple is implementing a very clever and INSTANT migration path to > > 64-bit computing that will deliver major 32-bit AND 64- bit > > performance punch immediately with no need for a 64-bit OS EVER. > > > > Apple has done all the BETA testing on the G5 PowerMac. Buyers will be > > getting post beta product immediately. > > > > Just my ten dollars. > > > > k > > > > On Friday, August 8, 2003, at 07:34 AM, sr ferenczy wrote: > > > >> in order to have backwards support of current 32 bit apps (with no > >> noticeable slowdown) the OS cant be fully 64 bit. this really doesnt > >> affect performance, only compatibility. > >> > >> as far as 64 bit apps, yes, PS will probably show huge gains in > >> performance from such a change, but this doesnt discount the overall > >> ability of the G5s (though we will have to wait for real world tests) > >> the 1ghz bus alone makes these machines worth the money. sure, at > >> this point the G5 might not be that much faster mhz for mhz compared > >> to the G4s, but it gets information fed to it over 5 times faster!! > >> we now get to enjoy the true power of the processor, not the limiting > >> of a slow ass bus. (remember too, moto still is unsure as to whether > >> the next incarnation of the G4 will even be able to reach a 200 mhz > >> system bus, let alone a 1 ghz.) > >> > >>> I would wait until there are native applications. > >> > >> all 32 bit apps are native, wait no longer. > >> > >> sandor > >> > >> > >> On Friday, August 8, 2003, at 10:23 AM, Matthew Wensley wrote: > >> > >>> IMHO, there is no rush to upgrade to G5 for 2 reasons: > >>> > >>> 1) The OS is not fully 64 bit yet > >>> > >>> 2) no 64 bit programmes yet. > >>> > >>> If I was working the Adobe programmes to make a living, I would wait > >>> until there are native applications. > >>> Let someone else beta the new "iron". > >>> > >>> My 2 cents > > kunga10 (AIM) > > kunga47 (Yahoo Messenger with Cross-Platform dial-up Video sans audio > > on Macs) > >