On the other hand, I have bought new PBs - first the 500mhz rev 1, and now the AlPB. They both worked perfectly for me, despite being dragged into difficult and dusty locations. Caution is always a good idea - I didn't buy either until I read reviews of actual use. David On Friday, August 8, 2003, at 06:54 PM, Snoke Jay S NPRI wrote: > I second Scott's argument - after about 25 years experience in buying > and using various computers and operating systems, I never buy the > first model or version. There are always bugs to be worked out... > Jay Snoke > > >> as a former Apple employee, I would never ever purchase the first >> series of any of their computers. There are always bugs and you >> usually end up kicking yourself by the time the second model is >> released. When the very first G4's were released 2 of my friends >> bought them and both had many many problems with them. When the first >> dual 1's were released we ended up repairing close to 50% of the units >> we sold. >> >> Just my infinite amount of dollars +1 to what ever you say, black >> magic, no erasies. >> >> On Friday, August 8, 2003, at 11:43 AM, Kunga wrote: >> >>> Matt's 2¢ isn't worth 2¢. He completely misunderstands and >>> underestimates the value of the 1 GHz bus and the fact that the OS >>> will never need to be 64-bit for applications to be 64-bit right away >>> with trivial recompilations that Apple has made simple for developers >>> to deliver quickly. 64-bit Photoshop will be delivered as a free >>> update later this month before most G5 buyers even get their > >>> computers. >>> >>> Apple is implementing a very clever and INSTANT migration path to >>> 64-bit computing that will deliver major 32-bit AND 64- bit >>> performance punch immediately with no need for a 64-bit OS EVER. >>> >>> Apple has done all the BETA testing on the G5 PowerMac. Buyers will >>> be >>> getting post beta product immediately. >>> >>> Just my ten dollars. >>> >>> k >>> >>> On Friday, August 8, 2003, at 07:34 AM, sr ferenczy wrote: >>> >>>> in order to have backwards support of current 32 bit apps (with no >>>> noticeable slowdown) the OS cant be fully 64 bit. this really doesnt >>>> affect performance, only compatibility. >>>> >>>> as far as 64 bit apps, yes, PS will probably show huge gains in >>>> performance from such a change, but this doesnt discount the overall >>>> ability of the G5s (though we will have to wait for real world >>>> tests) >>>> the 1ghz bus alone makes these machines worth the money. sure, at >>>> this point the G5 might not be that much faster mhz for mhz compared >>>> to the G4s, but it gets information fed to it over 5 times faster!! >>>> we now get to enjoy the true power of the processor, not the >>>> limiting >>>> of a slow ass bus. (remember too, moto still is unsure as to whether >>>> the next incarnation of the G4 will even be able to reach a 200 mhz >>>> system bus, let alone a 1 ghz.) >>>> >>>>> I would wait until there are native applications. >>>> >>>> all 32 bit apps are native, wait no longer. >>>> >>>> sandor >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, August 8, 2003, at 10:23 AM, Matthew Wensley wrote: >>>> >>>>> IMHO, there is no rush to upgrade to G5 for 2 reasons: >>>>> >>>>> 1) The OS is not fully 64 bit yet >>>>> >>>>> 2) no 64 bit programmes yet. >>>>> >>>>> If I was working the Adobe programmes to make a living, I would >>>>> wait >>>>> until there are native applications. >>>>> Let someone else beta the new "iron". >>>>> >>>>> My 2 cents >>> kunga10 (AIM) >>> kunga47 (Yahoo Messenger with Cross-Platform dial-up Video sans audio >>> on Macs) >> >> > > ---------- > G4ist, a listserv for discussion of everything G4. > FAQ at <http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/G4.html>. > Send a message to <G4-DIGEST at themacintoshguy.com> to switch to the > digest. > > XRouter | Share your DSL or cable modem between multiple computers! > Dr. Bott | Now $139.99 <http://www.drbott.com/prod/xrouter.html> > > Dr. Bott LLC 4-port USB Hub in translucent Graphite! > Dr. Bott LLC <http://www.drbott.com/prod/ghub.html> > > Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Canon Digital > Cameras | > --Quicksilver & refurbished G4's arriving daily! | and Camcorders!! > | > > MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only > $879! > Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! <http://www.macresq.com> > > OS X News, Dr.Mac, Forums, Tutorials, Tips, Hints, FAQ?s - > http://www.osxfaq.com >