thank you, good point. Mbps/Kbps are also used in the USB and Firewire communication speeds. (12 Mbps, 480 Mbps, 400 Mbps, and 800 Mbps---translated 1.5 MBps, 60 MBps, 50 MBps and 100 MBps) sandor On Dec 13, 2003, at 5:06 PM, David DelMonte wrote: > Just an additional point that Sandor's examples are good for any type > of data communication whether it's dial-up, DSL or cable. > > David