Well for whatever it's worth - digest the following: I went to several of the test sites @ <http://home.cfl.rr.com/eaa/Bandwidth.htm> and with my ADSL connection here in Oslo, Norway ran several of the tests at 10 randomly picked test sites worldwide. I ran each test 5 times or more in rapid succession, finishing with each test site test sequence within a minute before moving on. Here are some interesting facts: These test sites measure a moment in time and give you no more accurate information than: "that at this particular few seconds in time" my connection speed was x seconds at y speed. I base my conclusion on the following: not only did none of the test sequences give me speeds that matched any of the other test site sequences, none of the test sites came up with the same connection speed twice in a row, from 10 seconds to the next 10 seconds. Telenor, the Norwegian phone company that I subscribe to, avers that my account is a 704/105 account: (thus the "A" ("Asymmetric") in ADSL: 704 kbps DL and 105 kbps UL). The results of the random tests (and let me remind you that I took each test at least 5 times in rapid succession before moving to the next test site, varied between 234 kbps to 2554 kbps! More than a factor of ten difference!! Each site gave me a variance between 234 kbps-567 kbps at one site to 556 kbps-2554 kbps at another site. Averaging out all of my tests and keeping to the mean average, in other words, discounting the ridiculously low and the ridiculously high, I came to the conclusion that my average connection, or DL speed is between 500 kbps and 600 kbps, lower than the 704 advertised, but certainly expectable. Given prior input from other 'listers about overall traffic and that there will be slowdowns from servers on either end (and any along the way). Also don't forget that location in numbers of meters, (or yards, for those of you who are metrically challenged), from your local ADSL hub or switching center, and number of subscribers between you and the hub, also influence speed. Bottom line: this is field where measurement is never going to be accurate. "How big is yours, take a look at mine!", just doesn't apply to connection speeds. Even within seconds, my connection speed registered huge differences performing the same test at the same time of day, with no other controllable variables on my part available to influence the results. My advice: look at your average speeds over time and at different times of the day to see if you are being short-changed by your ISP. Other than that - Your Mileage Will Definitely Vary!! On Sunday, Dec 14, 2003, at 14:13 Europe/Oslo, Power Macintosh G4 List wrote: > Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 22:50:15 -0500 > Subject: [G4] Broadband Speed Liar's Poker > From: Snow White <jj4 at sympatico.ca> > Message-Id: <A0833288-2DE8-11D8-B160-003065718F58 at sympatico.ca> > > I find many servers are slower than my 1.5 Mbps DSL. I am in Canada > and recommend Sympatico. Relliable and consistent. > > For speed tests go to > > http://home.cfl.rr.com/eaa/Bandwidth.htm > > There is about 80 or so places to check your speed all over the world. > > > And I highly recommend DSL Reports for ISP experiences from other > users. > > www.dslreports.com > > Awesome site and you can test your Port Security as well. > > jj > Nosce te ipsum: "Know Thyself" Inscribed at the temple of Apollo at Delphi Erik Justus Paiewonsky Oslo, NORWAY