CJ, Thanks I had forgotten about the Option drag it out trick. I finally got rid of the thing by cleaning out my "PreferencePanes' folder. There were several old item that needed to go. I suggest everyone needs to go into their home directory and open /Library/PreferencePanes Dick > From: CJ Scaminaci <halogenius at sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Re: [G4] How to Remove Menu Items 10..3.2 > Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:57:52 -0600 > > Usually if you hold Option and drag it out of the menu it will > disappear. Doesn't always work though.