RE; it sounds like an invisablee file that has become visable from one of your maintenance programs, I found a download of cocktail and eventualy made the file invisable again ,I wasnt able to delete it either > When I try to move the problem folder to another location, it asks > whether I want to copy > the enclosed invisible file, and there is only a "yes" option (now I > got more of these > invisible "private data" buggers). It's been a week now and I'm ready > to erase this cursed > volume. Is there anything else I should try first? > > R