for the most part, it's pretty good. the finder is not raandomly crashing, only M$ Word crashes occassionally. it's not overclocked, it's maxed out with 768MB of good RAM... the only thing that could be kicking my arse is thee original 4GB HD (the boot disk) has slightly more than 1GB or free space on it...??? > ---------- > From: sr ferenczy > Reply To: Power Macintosh G4 List > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 2:13 PM > To: Power Macintosh G4 List > Subject: Re: [G4] 10.2.8 update installer STILL dies... > > how is the system working besides the update? are any other apps > crashing, is the finder randomly crashing? > > and finally, what is your reason for updating to 10.2.8? (in other > words, can you live with what you have and not update?) i have a > million problems with my beige G3 even without upgrades... > > sandor > > On Friday, October 17, 2003, at 08:52 AM, Snoke Jay S NPRI wrote: > > > okie, here's the story on trying to do the 10.2.8 update: > > 1. a beige G3 with a zif upgrade will not boot into single-user mode > > by holding down the CMD-S keys. It doesn't matter if I use the ADB > > keyboard that originally came with the system or not (I have an > > OrangeMicro USB/Firewire card in it, and the driver must not be > > immediately loaded...). > > 2. I ran disk utility and repaired the disk to the extent it > > would/can repair a boot disk, and there were a few permissions that > > got repaired. > > 3. I booted the system up with the Norton SystemWorks CD and ran Disk > > Doctor - several things were fixed there as well. > > 4. I finally managed to get the system to boot off the hard drive - > > for those who don't know, this is not easily done, since the last > > known boot drive is the CD-ROM in this case and the CD doesn't allow > > yoou to select any other boot disk... > > 5. I still can not do the update - the installer (either the full or > > the short update version) still dies. *&^%$#! weird. > > > > any other ideas??? > > Jay > > > > > > > >> after you hold down CMD-S and are booted into single user mode, a > >> command > >> prompt will come up (just like using the terminal, though it will > >> occupy > >> the full screen) simply type "fsck -y" and hit enter (no quotes) it > >> will > >> do its thing, checking the integrity and structure of the file system > >> (thus the "fsck" - "FileSystemChecK") run it repeatedly until it > >> returns > >> "drive was ok" 2 consecutive times. most of all, good luck =) > >> > >> sandor > >> > >> > >> On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Snoke Jay S NPRI wrote: > >> > >>> thx, Wayne - will try this when I get home. > >>> > >>>> CMD-S > >>>> > >>>>> I fixed priveledges as well, and tried again while all this was > >>>>> on-going. > >>>>> how do I boot into single user mode? I assume the system has to > >>>>> be shut > >>>>> down first, then booted while holding down a key or two on the > >>>>> keyboard? > >>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> did you try fixing volume privleges via disk utility? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> if that doesnt work i would also try booting into single user > >>>>>> mode and > >>>>>> running fsck, but i would first try disk utility. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> sandor > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I did that. I also tried the full update as well, thinking > >>>>>>> there > >>>>> was some corruption; however, when the disk image is > >>>>> decompressed, I > >>>>> imagine the sumcheck would spot the problem right off the bat... > >>>>> anyone > >>>>> else have a suggestion? > >>>>>>> Snoke > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> first thing to try - re-download the installer. if something got > >>>>>>>> corrupted during the download, this type of thing could happen. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> sandor > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, October 14, 2003, at 04:34 PM, Snoke Jay S NPRI > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Listas- > >>>>>>>>> Over the weekend, I tried to update my OS X 10.2.6 on my > >>>>> beige G3 > >>>>>>>>> with a G4 ZIF to OS X 10.2.8. The installer quit > >>>>>>>>> unexpectedly, so > >>>>> I > >>>>>>>>> tried it again...and again...to no avail. 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