The difference between the Yikes and the Sawtooth is that the Sawtooth has an AGP slot for the video, which takes advantage of much faster transfer rates than the PCI video cards in the Yikes. The 7000 is the most capable PCI video card currently sold for the Mac (maybe the only PCI video card being sold for the Mac). The original Radeon Mac Edition is faster than the 7000, but ATI no longer sells it. You can find it on eBay on occasion. I have one in a B/W G3 (same motherboard as the Yikes) with Quartz Extreme enable via a parameter hack and it works very well. QE will not be enabled on any PCI graphics computer, no matter what card you have in the slot. For a Yikes, that is all you can get. "It's good sportsmanship to not pick up lost golf balls while they are still rolling." ~ Mark Twain On Jan 8, 2004, at 4:20 PM, lavode at comcast.net wrote: > Personally, I have heard that anything over a Radeon 7000 is a waste > of money for the older G4s. Of course, I have a Yikes!, and I may be > confusing specific info about my computer. I plan on getting one of > the 64mb 7000 cards, as it will still support dual monitor, provide a > ton of VRAM compared to the 16mb in there now, will allow me to run > QE, and doesn't have wake from sleep issues withe the Yikes. What > more could I need? > > YMMV, > Lavode > >>> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 10:39:45 -0500 >>> >>> What is the best, video card now, that would work in my older >>> Sawtooth >>> G4? >>> >>> >>> Tks- >>> Richard >> >> >> The best that provides dual monitor support would be the Radeon 9800 >> with >> DVI and VGA, 128MB of RAM, followed by the Radeon 8500 with DVI and >> VGA, >> 64MB RAM. >> The problem with the Sawtooth is that it can't use ADC, so any video >> cards >> with ADC ports are "wasted" - though naturally if you only need 1 >> monitor, >> you could always use the DVI (or VGA) port, so at that point any ATI >> video >> card should be okay, as well as most nVidia cards (though there may be >> trouble with 8x AGP cards, you'd have to check for info on that). >> >> I like the Radeon 8500. You could also try a PC version of the Radeon >> 8500 >> and flash it with Mac firmware, which might save you $50 or so. >> > > ---------- > G4ist, a listserv for discussion of everything G4. > FAQ at <http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/G4.html>. > Send a message to <G4-DIGEST at themacintoshguy.com> to switch to the > digest. > > XRouter | Share your DSL or cable modem between multiple computers! > Dr. Bott | Now $139.99 <http://www.drbott.com/prod/xrouter.html> > > Dr. Bott LLC 4-port USB Hub in translucent Graphite! > Dr. Bott LLC <http://www.drbott.com/prod/ghub.html> > > Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Canon Digital > Cameras | > --Quicksilver & refurbished G4's arriving daily! | and Camcorders!! > | > > MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only > $879! > Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! <http://www.macresq.com> > > OS X News, Dr.Mac, Forums, Tutorials, Tips, Hints, FAQ?s - > http://www.osxfaq.com >