On 1 Mar, 2004, at 21:49, Donald Town Jr. wrote: << After popping two of the newer drives in and starting up, (Thinking I had successfully changed a scsi id) I decided I better ask here for someone to straighten me out on if that still applies to the different newer drives. Also, the profiler said one drive was on ata 1 and the other on ata 0. Both had ID 0, and I don't know of that is allowable on that machine so I shut it down to await clarification of what is 'doable' safely. >> It appears that you have successfully installed the two IDE hard drives on separate bus ribbons. You should have no further problems except that attaching a slower device to the ribbon attached to a fast hard drive may cause the drive to operate at a slower speed than it is rated for. I would suggest attempting to link both drives on the same ribbon after identifying them as "Master" and |"Slave" drives. That would leave the second ribbon available for the CD and Zip drives. You may need to have custom length IDE ribbons built for you at a local computer store. The SCSI socket on the mother board gives you the ability to attach up to eight SCSI devices to that circuit (SCSI IDs from "0" to "7" equals 8 devices). The primary limiting factor here is the number of power connections that are available and the power output of the power supply. You also have the limitation of available mounting locations inside the G3 case - usually there is not space for more than three devices such as Zip drives, hard drives, and CD readers/burners in addition to the original equipment installed (Floppy drive, original hard drive, and CD drive). As long as you provide the SCSI devices with different identities (no duplicate numbers), you should see each device as a separate icon on your desktop when you boot-up. You can then treat each device as an individual site and choose to store your data in whichever location you want. If you want, you can install separate operating systems on each drive and choose to start up from different drives as the need arises. Just remember to identify each drive as a separate identity. Look for the SCSI identification bridge pins on the drives. They are usually identified by the letters "A0, A1 and A2" or just as "0, 1, and 2" printed on the circuit board. "0" equals ID-1, "1" equals ID-2, and "2" equals ID-4. Placing bridges on the sets of pins in different combinations creates the SCSI identification, ie: no bridge equals SCSI-0, bridge on "0" equals SCSI-1, bridge on "1" equals SCSI-2, bridges on "0" and "1" equals SCSI-3, bridge on "2" equals SCSI-4, bridges on "0" and "2" equals SCSI-5, bridges on "1" and "2" equals SCSI-6, and bridges on all three ("0", "1", and "2") equals SCSI-7. Good luck with your adventures into the world of SCSI.