I fished out a scsi cable and installed it ...then thought better of installing too many unidentified ID's at once. After popping two of the newer drives in and starting up, (Thinking I had successfully changed a scsi id) I decided I better ask here for someone to straighten me out on if that still applies to the different newer drives. Also, the profiler said one drive was on ata 1 and the other on ata 0. Both had ID 0, and I don't know of that is allowable on that machine so I shut it down to await clarification of what is 'doable' safely. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx *Always* do thorough research and know exactly what ID you have on each drive. Never just pop in any old drive. I have a beige desktop 266 that I maxed out on RAM and VRAM, added a USB and a Firewire card and ATI Video card, installed OS 9.2.1, ATM Deluxe and Quicktime 6.0 Pro, etc. You can install Jaguar and even Panther on these but I found OS 9.2.1 to be more stable and it runs faster than X on this machine. I feel sometimes that the G3 is quicker than my G4 450. That said, to your main question: I installed a SCSI drive in the same place you did. Then I added another SCSI drive by removing the unnecessary Floppy drive. There are bezels available to cover the floppy slot or just leave it in there. The IDs are: ATA 0--ID 0 (4 Gig); ATA 1--ID 0 (CD); SCSI Bus 0--ID 0 (4 Gig); SCSI Bus 1--ID 1 (9 Gig). I use the 9 Gig SCSI for my Startup Drive. I'm sure that some will say you can't do this (17 Gigs) but this G3 is set up exactly that way. Hope this helps. Jano _________________________________________________________________ One-click access to Hotmail from any Web page download MSN Toolbar now! http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/