I'm likin' mine. Had a Sawtooth 400 and jumped to refurb 1.25 DP. Wonderful and zippy. But I did not use a G5 and then digress - I am sure that would be tough - so it all depends on what you use it for and your own perspective. Basically the 1.25 DP is stable, not too noisy, reliable and fast compared to what I used previously. And I am happy with my purchase. The G5s have a few minor kinks, I hear, and I think you need to upgrade software for the G5, whereas this G4 has had 5-6 years to work it all out. YMMV. You do realize the 1.25 DP refurbished is $1299US. You just need to wait till they are available and call your order in. It took me a month, checking every day, to catch them available as a refurb. jj On Sunday, May 9, 2004, at 08:13 AM, Power Macintosh G4 List wrote: > Opinions wanted on 1.25 SP > > Considering a new mac for the missus'. The 1.25 mhz G4 desktop > looks pretty good at $1299. Anyone have any experience with them?