I have been trying to get a flashed Radeon 8500 to work properly in my G4 for almost a week. It went bad when I applied the latest firmware update from ATI. Finally, I gave up and decided to try and flash it back to a PC for my wife's computer. This was my first attempt at flashing, and I don't think I used the correct ROM. After flashing it, I received no signal when it was installed in the PC. So, I stuck it back in my G4 to see if it worked and what ROM showed up in ASP. The card still worked in the G4, and the ROM listed was 113-85710-220. So, I started playing Halo to see how long it tookk to freeze up. The card outlasted me. After about a hour and a half, it was still working fine. I opened up the display control panel, and checked out the available options. All of a sudden, there was a option for dual and mirror displays that wasn't there before. Don't know what I did, but it seems to be working fine now. Who knows? Thanks-- Kevin