I have been snaking the cables out of my computers for ten years or more now, running a fistfull of drives (especially when they were only 1gb or less) and using external power supplies that I bought used many years ago. I think I bought about a dozen or more power supplies for 2 bucks each..something like that..some kind of pc server supplies I think. But they come with 6-8 standard plugs and are probably 400 watts or more with their own cooling fans...I just pluck it down next to the computer and plug in a drive, lay the drive in front of the airflow from the power supply and sometimes I even stack the drives with rubber cushions....3-5 high. They are a bit loud but at one time I even build a little noise reduction box, and another time I ran a longer cable and put some in a closet. I think you had to keep it six feet or less.....They all worked fine for many years...I even think they run cooler than being cooped up in the cases. And I just got used to the noise as they (the power supplies) have some real air moving fans. I had over ten drives at least one or two times for a few years going back to the quadra 650 days, but figured the system "maintenance" wasn't worth pushing the limits and when I cut back to half a dozen hard drives, things ran smoother for many more months it seemed. But now with these larger drives, my whole world is getting less cluttered.....and quieter too. John >Luke Rademacher wrote: >> Very good idea... but that DOES NOT SOLVE the Power problem. > >It does if you *replace* the existing drives with SATA drives - >which can be a lot larger than the current drives. Then you >aren't adding any drives. > >Apparently he already has the extra ATA drives, though, so >that is not a desirable solution. > >Eric S. > >> So good idea as you can always take out the SATA HD's for a newer machine. >> >> Good Luck >> >> Luke Rademacher >> Liquid Zone Graphics >> Mac mini 2.0Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo, 3GB RAM, 80GB HD, Combo DVD/CDRW, Mac >> OSX Leopard 10.5.4, ext NewerTech miniStack w/ 320GB HD. >> MDD Dual 1.25Ghz G4, 2GB RAM, 250GB/120GB/80GB HD's, 16x DL DVD±R/RW >> Superdrive, Mac OSX Tiger 10.4.11, Classic Mac OS 9.2.2. >> Intel Celeron 2GHz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD, Ubuntu Linux 8.04 >> 5.5th gen 80GB Enhanced Video iPod >> Canon CanoScan 8400F >> Canon Pixma iP4500 >> >> On Sep 22, 2008, at 2:48 PM, Eric Smith wrote: >> >>> Luke Rademacher wrote: >>> >>>> FWIW, if you want more HD space why not add externally? External HD's >>>> often have their own power and attach via FireWire. >>> >>> But Firewire (or USB) drives are still slower than internal ones. >>> Even ATA/66 is faster, and adding a SATA drive and controller card >>> would be waaay faster. I'd advise replacing the internal ATA drives, >>> which are subject to the 128GB size limitation, with a big SATA drive >>> or two. >>> >>> E >> _______________________________________________ >> G4 mailing list >> G4 at listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 >> >_______________________________________________ >G4 mailing list >G4 at listserver.themacintoshguy.com >http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4