TRY TECH TOOL 4.6.1. I have both it and Disk Warrior. Sometimes one will pick up things that the other won't. There are somethings that one can't find a solution (NO, find the cause of the problem) but it just goes away. I've been unable to receive eMail for two days, Jacked around with all the settings to no avail. Couldn't change the names of AppleWorks 6 documents. ??? Woke up (insomnia) and after working with quicken from 4:30 AM to 9:00 I rebooted at 9:10 and eMail started downloading in a deluge. RHB On Feb 16, 2009, at 7:22 PM, Umar Stone wrote: > Back in-front over the computer now, No It Is Not Fixed; > Well I must say I'm stuck with this one, don't worry about the > cable select Master/Slave relationship that is not the issue. That > is fine. > I tried the RAM memory cards they didn't seem to be dysfunctional, > taking them out one by one.The problem did not cease. > Also using Disk Warrior located a few issues the printer's print > option is unrepairable. > > So while I get a Mac-Vac for the dust, what about backing up and > totally reformatting my Mac, But I might just buy another > Tower .????????. > > thanks everyone for your advice > > On 16/02/2009, at 9:54 AM, gifutiger wrote: > >> Greetings ( + )!( + ) >> >> I concede, if there isn't a Cable Select jumper on the drive then >> they should be jumped as Master/Slave. However with the cable that >> is provide with the G4 the Master drive will still be the one that >> is closest to the Disk Controller. >> >> One last point that I would like to make is that the jumpers on >> all drives are not the same. Even if they are from the same >> manufacturer the jumpers may be different. So make sure that you >> read the documentation on the drive and set the jumpers accordingly. >> >> Once upon a time I installed a drive and just copied the jumper >> from one drive to the other. That didn't work because of a number >> of things. One being that I missed a jumper that told the IDE >> electronics on the drive that the complete size of the drive >> should be made available to the controller. >> >> >> Cheers >> >> - Harry - >> ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?º?ø >> >> >> On Feb 15, 2009, at 4:06 PM, Eric Wood wrote: >> >>> Am 15.02.2009 um 13:57 schrieb gifutiger: >>>> >>>> So my advice is set your drives to cable select it there is a >>>> setting otherwise set them both to "Master" >>> >>> The link you provided (http://developer.apple.com/documentation/ >>> Hardware/Developer_Notes/Macintosh_CPUs-G4/PowerMacG4/3Input- >>> Output/chapter_4_section_5.html) does not say to set both drives >>> to master, and indeed that would be incorrect. When two IDE >>> drives share a cable, then you do just as the Apple documentation >>> says to do: Set both drives to Cable Select, so that each will >>> automatically be assigned to either Master or Slave. Two masters >>> on one chain is incorrect. >>> >>> Good deal if you get away with doing that, but I say it's risky. >>> The only time you have two masters in a system is if they are >>> using separate cables, and a master may or may not have a slave - >>> that's entirely optional, although some drives do have a separate >>> setting for being the only drive, I've noticed. I think that's >>> either old-fashioned or limited to certain brands, however. >>> >>> Eric W. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> G4 mailing list >>> G4 at listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> G4 mailing list >> G4 at listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4 at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4