You should probably go to Apple's web site ( http://www.apple.com/support/downloads) and download the Mac OS X Combined Update 10.3.7. I have read of several issues of the Software update version. Bob > I should have known better, but I upgraded to 10.3.7 from 10.3.5, plus > I did the "firmware" upgrade from Software update. Now I can't play > any games that involve java ( or at least I think thats java, the > streaming coffee cup ) on Safari. It crashes everytime. Anyone else > experience this or have a possible fix? > > Jerry > > _______________________________________________ > G5 mailing list > G5 at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5