I understand that reinstalling the Java 1.4.2 Update 2 from Sept 27 will fix the problem. Looks like you can get it at the following URL: http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/javaupdate142.html Joel On Jan 2, 2005, at 8:28 PM, Jerry Bunn wrote: > I should have known better, but I upgraded to 10.3.7 from 10.3.5, plus > I did the "firmware" upgrade from Software update. Now I can't play > any games that involve java ( or at least I think thats java, the > streaming coffee cup ) on Safari. It crashes everytime. Anyone else > experience this or have a possible fix?