RE; Ah ha"" :0 I see, I had not given that any thought, though not written to me, I have a new Powerbook G4 800 I bought on closeout after Christmas, It came with a stack of included software disks and was loaded with OSX10.1.2 I think, also included was OSX 10.2 jaguar.which I installed immediately.I wonder could this be why carbon copy cloner does not work with my machine as compared to someone who purchased the retail version of jaguar? in other words could my pieced together system be a culprit? thankyou in advance On Saturday, April 5, 2003, at 11:00 AM, TeeGate wrote: > I am not sure if this will help but it is worth a try. > > First, try holding down the X key at startup. > > Also, try booting up from the 9.2.X CD by holding down the C key at > startup. Then go into the StartUp Disk Control Panel in the Apple and > see if you can choose X. Make sure the CD is not an Upgrade CD because > that will not boot. > > Guy >