[HM] Re: 8mm film, to digital, to firewire
rubin sinins
rubin.debra at verizon.net
Thu Oct 2 18:34:51 PDT 2003
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On Thursday, October 2, 2003, at 08:22 PM, Bob K wrote:
> Since you seem to have a digital camcorder, your best bet is to use it
> for digitizing
> your 8mm video's. Usually you can use the camcorder just to digitize,
> (connect
> output from 8mm camcorder as input to digital camcorder, and output of
> it to G4).
> If for some reason that won't work for you, just re-tape your videos
> from the 8mm
> into in your digital camcorder through a direct old fashioned A/V (or
> S Video)
> connection onto a MiniDV tape, and once that's finished, play it into
> your G4 as you
> would do with any new video taken with the digital camcorder this
> second step will
> absolutely not introduce any additional quality loss.
>
> If you were to choose the projection method your videos would suffer
> significant
> quality loss. Via the Digital camcorder quality loss will be minimal,
> if any, whether
> you do the recording into, directly through or via the DV tape.
> That's because
> once digitized additionalcopying is loss less.
>
> As for lost frames I am less certain, but my limited understanding of
> the process tells
> me that lost frames, if any, would occur in your G4, independent of
> any of the three
> methods used. To minimize the possibility make sure that you have the
> Internal HD
> space to do the recording, as external HD MAY be too slow even with a
> firewire
> connection.
>
> Another alternative would be to buy an analog to digital converter (I
> have the Formac
> Studio TVR, but there are many different ones on the market) play the
> video into
> the converter from your old 8mm camcorder (or player) via regular A/V
> connection
> (preferably S Video if your old camcorder has it) and Firewire from
> your converter to the
> G4. This would be completely worry free, with the only loss to worry
> about would be the
> $200 you pay for the converter. (Formac's Studio DV - without TV
> capabilities - is
> has a street price around $240, Dazzle's Hollywood DV Bridge around
> $200. Note that
> these units also work the other way round, converting digital to
> analog.
>
> Bob
>
> •••••
> On Thursday, Oct 2, 2003, at 19:36 US/Eastern, Jack Honeycutt wrote:
>
>> Hello all....
>>
>> This may be a specialized question, but I am not sure where to start
>> to look for a answer. Perhaps someone can refer me.
>>
>> The issue:
>>
>> I have some old 8mm film I want to burn to DVD (with iDVD). I have
>> read a bit on the process. I project my 8mm, film it with my digital
>> video camera (Canon Optura 20) then pump the video into my Mac via
>> the firewire port. Edit it, then burn it.
>>
>> I have a G4 700 Mhz Sonnet processor, 1GB of RAM, and a EIDE high
>> speed controller card connected to 160GB 7200 RPM HD. The controller
>> card is a Sonnet Tempo Trio card which is a firewire, USB and EIDE
>> controller card that plugs into a empty PCI slot:
>>
>> http://www.sonnettech.com/product/tempo_trio.html
>>
>> My Mac is a Power Mac 7600. Bus speed is 50Mhz. I am running Jaguar
>> 10.2.6
>>
>> I know I can do the above, but here is my question:
>>
>> Can I take the output from my digital video camera, and bypass the
>> tape, and go directly into the firewire port, and onto my HD?
>>
>> Will I drop frames? Do I care if I drop a few frames? Will my eye
>> see a difference between dumping digital tape into the firewire port
>> verses a direct feed from my digital video camera into the firewire
>> port (no tape)??
>>
>> I am going to call Sonnet tomorrow to see what they can tell me. I
>> don't know if the firewire feed goes from the firewire port, right to
>> the ribbon cable (on the same card) the feeds my HD, or if it goes
>> into the 50Mhz bus, and then into the HD. I think if the video has
>> to travel the old, slow, 50Mhz bus I am screwed. But if it does not,
>> maybe I have a chance.
>>
>> This Sonnet Tempo Trio card is quite smart (it should be; it cost
>> about $170), so I wonder if the 50Mhz bus of my old computer even
>> comes into play....????
>>
>> I have done the above in Windows (converted 8mm film to DVD) but I
>> want to do this on my Mac. I just don't know enough about how the
>> Mac works to figure out if it can take a live feed or not (with out
>> dumping a ton of frames).
>>
>> Will I drop a frame now and then? Will I drop a bunch of frames?
>> Will it take all the frames? I don't know how to tell.
>>
>> Any advice, web links, mailing lists, or referrals appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> jack in Portland Oregon
>>
>>
>>
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