You must be the kind of customer they dream of, one born every minute. Using analogy then if I bought a car that broke down every other day it might be safe but I would should not expect it to be fixed? If they told me that my car was still being developed when I bought and that if I were to only BUY these additional parts it would work just as it was advertised to in first place would you expect me to be happy? You may be a happy Yugo driver but I certainly would be p*%% off. The iDVD program not recognizing outside the box DVD-R drives is another Apple policy that rubs me the wrong way (though not affecting me since I have a superdrive) and in my opinion is a money grab by Apple at the expense of their loyal followers. It has made many perfectly fine machines obsolete for no really good reason. I know someone will pipe in with the licensing issue but they charge for iDVD so just charge a little more and pay for the darn license. Gerhard On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 06:04 PM, Phyllis Evans wrote: > I never said Jaguar was a fix. I said that 10.1 was not the greatest. > Compare it to the auto industry. The first year run of a new model > line is generally plagued with lots of design problems that are fixed > in the second and third year. Do you expect Ford or GM to trade even > for a redesigned model? They fix the problems that are deemed > dangerous. That's it. I think there should have been an upgrade price, > but I'm not going to beat my chest over $30 or $40. It's still far > better than anything out of Microsnot. And yes, I do work with Windoze > at the office. It makes me appreciate what we have with Apple. > > > On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 05:46 PM, Gerhard Kuhn wrote: > >> And then they have the nerve to charge for the Jaguar "upgrade" when >> in reality it is a fix! >> On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 05:38 PM, Phyllis Evans wrote: >> >>> Just my little 2¢ worth on the subject. Apple had to stop developing >>> for OS 9 sometime. Jaguar is the most stable upgrade that I can >>> remember in years, and I go back to 6.whatever (I think it was 6.7) >>> when the multifinder was introduced. As long as they keep developing >>> OS 9, other software companies will drag their feet on the move to >>> OS X. My primary word processor is Nisus because of the glossary >>> feature, and if they don't release at least a beta VERY soon, >>> they've lost me as a customer. That and my LabelWriter software are >>> the only things I run in Classic. If companies think that we will >>> continue to run OS 9 or Classic, they have no incentive to get off >>> their behinds and develop for OS X. How long should a company >>> continue to support an old system? It takes a lot of extra work to >>> make the current machines run in OS 9, and that translates into >>> extra money that could be going into R & D for future systems. >>> >>> I agree that 10.1 was not a great system, and while I played with >>> it, I didn't make the move to 10 until the release of Jaguar. Since >>> making the move, I've never looked back. Yes, I had to limber up the >>> gray matter and learn a few new things, but it was worth it. It's >>> time to move on. If you're happy with OS 9, then use it, but don't >>> criticize Apple for lighting a fire under the developers out there >>> to get with it. If Adobe can do it, so can others. > > > ---------- > <http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/MacDV.html>. > Send a message to <MacDV-DIGEST at themacintoshguy.com> to switch to the > digest version. > > XRouter | Share your DSL or cable modem between multiple computers! > Dr. Bott | Now $139.99 <http://www.drbott.com/prod/xrouter.html> > > Cyberian | Support this list when you buy at Outpost.com! > Outpost | http://www.themacintoshguy.com/outpost.shtml > > MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only > $879! Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! > <http://www.macresq.com> > > Gerhard Kuhn suspice at hay.net