They do. So are we. They/we are actually getting the Pioneer 105 for $69.95 after rebates. ;-) STeve << Speak for yourself. I would not be pissed if they charged an extra $100 for an MPEG-2 license external DVD burner version of iDVD3/iLife. And why don't PC owners have to pay an expensive license to use Sonic MyDVD and InterVideo WinDVD that comes with my DVR-105? k >>