I disagree. I'd pay the $100 (and I don't think it would be anywhere near that high) vs the $1000 for the software you need now or $2500 and up for a new machine. It is not a licensing issue. It is a "Buy a new Mac issue". Almost every step they've taken has been to force users to buy new Macs. It took one programmer a very short period of time to make it so OSX could be used on older Macs. And no, I'm not suggesting that Apple pour time and money into supporting/updating OS9.x, etc. I've got OSX installed on my mchine, and to be honest, maintaining it uses a lot more of my time than any previous Mac OS. I don't like that it forces me to use my Mac the way Apple wants me to, instead of the other way around. There are a number of other issues and bad experiences with OSX that leave/left a bad taste in my mouth. I boot into OSX every once in a while (usually a new promising app) and after getting frustrated, I can't wait to get back to OS9. I'm not even going to get into the "not supported" issue. I think it's great that Apple has migrated to OSX. I will too, once they resolve things, or I get a new Dual whatever. STeve << It's an MPEG-2 licensing issue. Period. If they wanted to make iDVD burn to ANY DVD-R they could -- and they would charge you for the license fee. And you'd be pissed. The licensing fee is embedded in the cost of Mac's that come with a super drive. It's easy to override -- except that Apple legal will go after you (and have) if you tell the secret. And they should. Those of us with Super Drives paid for an MPEG-2 license. Those who buy external DVD-R burners didn't. It's really that simple. Maybe Apple should offer an iDVD app for external burners and charge US$100 (or whatever). But you'd still be pissed. Randy >>