Sean, Excellent report on the details of these different Pioneer drive models and system support. What is "NON-RATED MEDIA"? What are you paying to whom for this media? I see DVD-R media on http://www.pricewatch.com for as little as 55¢ each in 200 quantity. You find any "non-rated" media that records @ 2x for that kind of price (in quantity)? Thanks. k On Wednesday, January 22, 2003, at 05:52 AM, Sean Collins wrote: > As an aside, the 2x speed is proprietary to Pioneer, and the 104/105 > will burn non-rated (1x) media at 2x. I do it regularly.