on 5/19/03 10:51 PM, Tom Kirshbaum at tom.kirshbaum at nau.edu wrote: > No, I meant what I said, though a touch ironically. Most overweight, > out-of-shape people (like me) have a shelf full of exercise and diet books, > which obviously haven't worked. They have started one book or one plan after > another and then let it slide. The success rate with books like that must be > very nearly zero, or there wouldn't be hundreds on the market, with dozens > of new ones coming out every year. > > I think the only people who succeed in benefiting from such books are > disciplined and accustomed to watching their diet and keeping up with > exercise already, in which case the books might help them touch up their > already successful diet or exercise regimens. But that's about it. > > See the analogy now? A script-writing program might be of some help to > someone who already writes well, but will soon be gathering dust on the > shelf, as it were, if its purchaser is not already an adept writer. > > Tom You miss your truly ironic element: Discipline is always the catalyst for change and accomplishment. The uselessness is not in the book or tool, but in the dreamer's lack of discipline. The tools remain effective regardless of your abilities. One inclined to start from scratch on weight loss or writing benefits greatly from the tools. Beyond scratch, discipline carries. So lay off the burgers, exercise, and write.